Blues Songs of Jim Jackson, Do 12 bars define Blues?

Oops! Seems that the confusion of screen names is catching :D

Are we all looking at the same photo? :blink:

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I think you're concentrating on the wrong man, check that kid on the left of the photo - look familiar? :P

Clayton supposed to be in his 20's at the time of the photo, and also what is Clayton doing with the Hicks family???

Having a barbecue of course :D

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I suppose the above was meant for clear illustration of the regular quoting system built in the forum :lol:

I'm ok, either way, as I too am having trouble remembering what I said and when - :lol:

(it's a function of approaching old age) -

but, to answer Maked Marvel, there are contemporary reports (meaning reports made at the time) of minstrel singers performing with banjo accompaniment, with the banjo playing a musical response to the singer, like the blues singer who plays a phrase following a vocal line. Also, the earliest witnessing of a blues performance that I have read was by John Jacob Niles at a minstrel/medicine show (reported by Niles himself and quoted in Paul Oliver's Songsters and Saints) -

<<Someone sitting down and writing a song, it's not like someone sitting down and creating a new musical stream. It is different when someone, his writing of a song doesn't introduce new forms, new texture, new dance, in any song attempting to write as new.>>

MM,
Yes, thank you, I'm aware of the difference. [{::]
I stand by my a previous post. ;)

I still don't 'buy' this statement ...
<< Blues is the only music that musicians were sitting alone with themselves and creating new music improvised on the fly. It was later adopted in Jazz.>>

... the numerous examples I gave barley plumbed the depths of creativity and variety of musical genres throughout the world that illustrate that blues is not the only music that musicians create 'on the fly.'
Can you please give me an example of a 'new musical stream' ... sorry, I'm not sure what that means.

As for Handy and the pentatonic scale, perhaps he was refering to the major 7 degree of the major scale which is indeed not included in the major pentatonic.
Also he could have been refering to the minor pentatonic scale that contains the flatted 7th degree which is considered a 'blue' note by some folks, as is the minor 3rd present in the minor pentatonic scale. The minor pentatonic is used in many blues tunes, both pre and post war.

Rev George