Peter Green

I've been on an early Fleetwood Mac kick lately.

Any other big Peter Green fans here on the forum? The live stuff from the Boston Tea Party is great!!! And of course Fleetwood Mac in Chicago 1969 is a classic.

There's a very informative article about Green at The American Blues Blog if anybody is interested. The guy has lived a crazy life.

Check it out at:
http://www.americanbluesblog.com/2009/08/n...n-god-by-j.html

There is also a review of a live CD that Mick Fleetwood put out recently..they do a bunch of the Green material (without Green) but it doesn't quite hold up.

Check it out at:
http://www.americanbluesblog.com/2009/09/n...again-by-j.html

For my money, Greeny was one of the best blues guitarists ever! His touch, his tone, his phrasing... all remarkable. Lots of fans here of FM's early days. Have you read Jet Celmins' bio of Peter? ;)

Like many have claimed, I was switched on to blues via the british blues explosion. Listened to plenty of Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Clapton and Cream etc but it was Peter Greens Fleetwood Mac that made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. Firstly by hearing Albatross on the album "Pious Bird Of Good Omen" and then by listening to everything I could get my hands on.

Peter Green is appearing at Australias primary blues festival over Easter next year and Im thrilled about the opportunity to finally see him in person but also experiencing some trepidation at the thought

Heres one of my faves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivS5wjwGbn8&feature=related

www.bluesfest.com.au

yep, lots of Peter Green fans around here. Good to here that Albatros was your initial feed into FM, mine too :)
As much as I love all of Peter Greens blues catalogue I still find Albatros an amazing song.
Albatros has that same lightness of touch that is on all of Peters best material. ;gu;

For my money, Greeny's Albatross is simply one of the most haunting and memorable guitar instrumentals ever recorded. It's right alongside Santo & Johnny's Sleepwalk, T-Bone's Blues For Marili and a handful of others. ;)

For my money, Greeny's Albatross is simply one of the most haunting and memorable guitar instrumentals ever recorded. It's right alongside Santo & Johnny's Sleepwalk, T-Bone's Blues For Marili and a handful of others. ;)

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I came to Peter Green via John Mayall (via Eric Clapton); I dig all the Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac stuff, but I REALLY dig "A Hard Road", particularly the double-CD Expanded version (with instrumentals like "Greeny", "Rubber Duck", and of course "Supernatural").

"A Hard Road" is the pinnacle of British Blues. (the "imho" is implied)

Yup, BIG fan! The Dog & Dustbin album's hard to beat, though The Original Fleetwood Mac has some lovely stuff, can't believe the material wasn't considered good enough for release at the time it was recorded.

BTW any kudos for Greeny's voice? Always thought his vocals were very emotive, and have continued to be even in more recent times when his playing's been considered below par.

And speaking of IMHOs, always thought A Hard Road was far superior to the Beano album, partially because of Greeny's great playing (and vocals!) The Supernatural and You Don't Love Me are standout tracks. B)

B) Here's a video of them playing 'Albatross', and I'm thinking that it is just as much Danny Kirwan's song as it is Greenie's. My understanding is that Danny was mostly responsible for the second part of 'Oh Well'. Also, on the 'Bare Trees' album, Danny's composition 'On The Sunnyside of the Street' reminds me a lot of 'Albatross'. Just that style of guitar playing.

Danny was brought into the band because he wasn't primarily a Blues guy, but more of a rocker. See for yourself. ;gu;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ombnqWR3eA&feature=fvw

Here's a video of them playing 'Albatross', and I'm thinking that it is just as much Danny Kirwan's song as it is [b]Greenie's. My understanding is that Danny was mostly responsible for the second part of 'Oh Well'.

Writer's credit for Albatross goes to Peter. I don't recall Danny make any public statement about the song being his as much as Greeny's or being ripped off in the credit department. If I'm wrong it wouldn't be the first time. ;)

The point you make about Oh Well does makes some real sense to me. I know things started to gradually shift for Fleetwood Mac when Kirwan joined and I've always considered Oh Well as the culmination of Peter and Danny working together and turning FM into something more than the great British Blues band they started as.

"More"? Certainly "different" than what they had been, but I object to the term "more"


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B) Well, if Greenie's got the writing credit, then that settles that. I do believe that Greenie brought in Danny so that he could expand sonically in his music. On the "Then Play On' album, listen to tracks like "Madge", it was a case of where does the Blues and Rock collide?

When discussing the whole of Fleetwood Mac, it seems as if Danny's conrtributions are rarely mentioned or expounded upon. Same with Jeremy Spencer and Christine McVie. :unsure:

BTW, watching that video, you notice the guitars that the guys are playing? Peter and Danny both have those fabled Les Paul Standards from the late 50s, and Jeremy is playing a pre-CBS Strat. A million dollars worth of vintage gear there, but in 1968, they were considered old used guitars. :lol:

"More"? Certainly "different" than what they had been, but I object to the term "more"


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Sorry if you object to the word "more" as I used it. I still think Fleetwood Mac went well beyond their blues leanings and turned the band into something much more than any other British Blues outfit had at the time. If you still object to the word in that context, I guess I'll just have to be okay with that. :lol:

"More"? Certainly "different" than what they had been, but I object to the term "more"


;gu;

Sorry if you object to the word "more" as I used it. I still think Fleetwood Mac went well beyond their blues leanings and turned the band into something much more than any other British Blues outfit had at the time. If you still object to the word in that context, I guess I'll just have to be okay with that. :lol:

Once Fleetwood Mac started worrying about making "hits" ("Oh Well", "Rattlesnake Shake", "Green Manalishi", etc) they crossed the line from "blues band" to "blues-rock", which is entirely different.

To my taste, they LOST something when this transition was made. Give me "Love That Burns" over any of their hits of this period.

B) Well, their record speaks for itself as we've had this discussion on these boards many times before. The fact was that Greenie was hearing something in his head which was why he brought Danny into the band. Peter starting to grow musically, and with Danny on board, he could play music that he couldn't with just Jeremy. 'Then Play On' was the result, and that album is a masterpiece by anyone's standard. It goes without saying that if Peter had been able to avoid drugs and stick around a little longer, the magical music was just getting started. I find it amusing that there's a small cadre of people who are still resentful to this day that Fleetwood Mac had the gall to carry on when Greenie left the band. :m]